
A Book with Legs
Welcome to A Book with Legs podcast, hosted by Smead Capital Management. In each episode, the folks at Smead Capital Management explore value investing through an entirely unique lens, bringing in authors to discuss books that have directly or indirectly influenced the decisions the Smead team has made on their investments in stocks and equities. The podcast is for the curious-minded looking for worldly wisdom. Investing is the last great liberal art, and the team at Smead wants to learn as much as they can. Any level of investor, business person, or thinker, whether personally or professionally, will be intrigued and engaged by these discussions.
Latest episodes

Aug 7, 2023 • 1h 15min
Greg Steinmetz - The Richest Man Who Ever Lived
“The name Fugger in Germany is like the name Rockefeller in the US.”Greg Steinmetz joins Cole and Bill for his second appearance on the show, this time to discuss his book, The Richest Man Who Ever Lived. The book explores the life of German banker Jacob Fugger. The discussion focuses on how Fugger built his empire of wealth, the partnerships he created along the way, and the lasting legacy he left behind.

Jul 24, 2023 • 1h 29min
Brett Scott - Cloudmoney
“Does it matter if you pay with cash, card, iPhone, or Bitcoin?”Cole and author Brett Scott delve into that question when discussing Scott’s book, Cloudmoney: Cash, Cards, Crypto, and the War for Our Wallets. Scott’s work explores the idea of how a digital monetary system has resulted in anti-cash messaging. The conversation covers the players in the current financial system and how cash is no longer king.

Jul 10, 2023 • 1h 11min
Barry Strauss - The War That Made the Roman Empire
In this episode, Barry Strauss joins Cole to discuss his book, The War That Made the Roman Empire: Antony, Cleopatra, and Octavian at Actium. Barry’s book recounts the fierce conflict at the Battle of Actium in 31 BC. The conversation covers the events leading up to the civil war, how the historic naval battle at Actium was fought, and what may have happened to the Roman Empire had Antony and Cleopatra been victorious.

Jul 3, 2023 • 43min
The Smead Book List - Summer 2023
Interested in what is on the Smead Capital Management book list? Listen in to hear Cole and Bill list the books they have recently read, what they’re currently reading, and the books they have on deck. Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 8min
Dror Goldberg - Easy Money
Author Dror Goldberg joins Cole and Bill to discuss his book, Easy Money: American Puritans and the Invention of Modern Currency. Dror’s book explores the history of modern money and its origins in colonial America. The conversation includes the idea of “siege money”, the role Massachusetts played in creating modern currency, and why the dollar system is so powerful.

Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 6min
Henry Sanderson - Volt Rush
Former journalist Henry Sanderson joins Cole to discuss his book, Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green. Henry’s work examines the realities of building a green energy economy, the supply chain requirements, and the geopolitical implications of transitioning into a greener world. The conversation covers clean energy’s role in today’s economy and how its position in society will evolve, as well as the race amongst countries to attract battery investment.

May 22, 2023 • 1h 17min
Robert Pickering - Blue Bood
Former Cazenove Chief Executive Robert Pickering joins Cole and Bill to discuss his book, Blue Blood: Cazenove in the Age of Global Banking. Pickering’s book dives into the distinctive history of the former prestigious investment bank. The conversation touches on Pickering’s first-hand experiences managing the company and how it ultimately became part of J.P. Morgan.

May 8, 2023 • 1h 20min
Mark Mills - The Cloud Revolution
Mark Mills makes his second appearance on the podcast, this time to discuss his book, The Cloud Revolution: How the Convergence of New Technologies Will Unleash the Next Economic Boom and A Roaring 2020s. Mark’s work dissects how advancing technology will provide an economic upswing in the near future. The conversation covers the progress of recent technology and how the everchanging tech landscape will aid humanity moving forward.

Apr 24, 2023 • 1h 6min
Margaret O'Mara - The Code - Part 2
Part 2The second part of Cole and Bill’s conversation with Author Margaret O’Mara on her book, The Code: Silicon Valley and the Remaking of America, covers early software, manufacturers of AI and computers, and communications between technologies and people, as well as different technologies themselves. They take a deep dive into what really made Silicon Valley as we know it today.

Apr 10, 2023 • 1h 4min
Margaret O'Mara - The Code - Part 1
Part 1“Gilded age money is actually the money that fuels the growth of Silicon Valley.”Author Margaret O’Mara joins Cole and Bill to discuss her book, The Code: Silicon Valley and the Remaking of America. O’Mara’s work tracks the history of the people who built Silicon Valley and the explosion of big tech in America. The conversation covers the institutions that provided the framework for innovation, the background of the pioneers, and the investors that supported this district.
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