
A Book with Legs
Welcome to A Book with Legs podcast, hosted by Smead Capital Management. In each episode, the folks at Smead Capital Management explore value investing through an entirely unique lens, bringing in authors to discuss books that have directly or indirectly influenced the decisions the Smead team has made on their investments in stocks and equities. The podcast is for the curious-minded looking for worldly wisdom. Investing is the last great liberal art, and the team at Smead wants to learn as much as they can. Any level of investor, business person, or thinker, whether personally or professionally, will be intrigued and engaged by these discussions.
Latest episodes

Feb 19, 2024 • 1h 5min
Chris Roush - The Future of Business Journalism
In this episode, author Chris Roush joins Cole Smead to discuss his book, "The Future of Business Journalism," which explores the evolving media landscape and its impact on business reporting. Roush navigates the challenges and opportunities facing business journalists in an era of technological disruption and shifting audience demands.

Feb 5, 2024 • 58min
George Gilder - Life After Capitalism
Live from the 2024 Smead Investor Oasis, venture capitalist George Gilder joins Bill and Cole Smead to discuss his latest work, "Life after Capitalism," in which he redefines capitalism as a knowledge-based system. Gilder presents a vision of the future in which technological advances disrupt traditional capitalist structures, emphasizing innovation and knowledge over wealth accumulation.

Jan 22, 2024 • 1h 12min
Andrew Pettegree - Book At War
In this episode, Professor Andrew Pettegree joins Cole to discuss his newly released title, "The Book at War." The book is a captivating analysis of the power of print in society and conflicts throughout history. At the heart of this literary work is the paradox of words during wartime. The notion that books are weapons in the war of ideas is tested in this account on how the written word leaves a lasting impact on the fabric of societies.

Jan 8, 2024 • 1h 2min
General David Petraeus - Conflict
In this episode, retired U.S. Army general David Petraeus joins Bill and Cole to discuss the recently released book that he co -authored titled, "Conflict." The book explores the evolution of warfare beginning in 1945 up to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the importance of strategic leadership. Ultimately, that idea that what takes place in one part of the world does actually resonate or reverberate in others is critical.

Jan 1, 2024 • 29min
The Smead Book List - Winter 2023
Interested in the Smead Capital Management book list? Listen in to hear Cole and Bill Smead list the books they have recently read, what they’re currently reading, and the books they have on deck.Also highlighted in this episode is a tribute to the late great Charlie Munger, as we release this episode on what would have been his 100th birthday. Listen to Bill and Cole's top quotes and ideas from Munger and hear about how his history has influenced them as value-investing gurus.Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email your suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

Dec 18, 2023 • 1h 21min
Vikash Yadav - Liberalism's Last Man
"What about our system of liberal meritocratic capitalism is good and useful? What about it is worth preserving, expanding and fixing, so that we can be prepared for the challenges that are coming?" Professor Vikash Yadav joins Cole to discuss his book, "Liberalism's Last Man". The book explores the elements of one of the great economic thinkers and philosophers of the 20th century — Friedrich Hayek — that are still relevant and viable today. The conversation focuses on the evolution of liberalism and its influence on human flourishing.

Dec 4, 2023 • 1h 14min
Senator Phil Gramm - The Myth of American Inequality
“If you read it, you will realize that many of the arguments being made against American capitalism are invalid. You will realize that this country of ours is even greater than you think.” Senator Phil Gramm joins Cole to discuss his book, The Myth of American Inequality. Gramm’s book explores the data which prove income inequality in the United States is far lower than what most Americans are led to believe. The conversation covers the statistics that support Gramm’s position and how the American Dream remains strong.

Nov 20, 2023 • 1h 26min
Daniel Schulman - The Money Kings
“Once you know where to look, you start to see it all around you in present day life. Whether it’s the Federal Reserve Bank, whether it’s the company Goldman Sachs… It’s remarkable how the degree to which we are living in this world they helped build.”In this episode, Cole is joined by author Daniel Schulman to discuss his book, The Money Kings. Daniel’s book is the story of the German Jewish immigrants who revolutionized Wall Street and shaped today’s economic system. The conversation covers names like Goldman and Sachs, Lehman and Seligman, Kuhn and Loeb, and Warburg and Schiff.

Nov 6, 2023 • 1h 14min
Lori Garver - Escaping Gravity
“You have to have a drive and a willingness to get bloody by standing up for something greater than yourself.”Former NASA Deputy Administrator Lori Garver joins Cole to discuss her book, Escaping Gravity: My Quest to Transform NASA and Launch a New Space Age. Lori’s book is a firsthand account of her career at NASA, highlighted by her role in the private sector’s involvement in the nation’s space program. The conversation covers the hurdles she faced, how incentive structures can lead to good and bad, and how free market capitalism can deliver human potential.

Oct 23, 2023 • 1h 12min
Randall Sullivan - Graveyard of the Pacific
Randall Sullivan joins Cole and Bill for a conversation about his book, Graveyard of the Pacific: Shipwreck and Survival on America's Deadliest Waterway. The book describes the haunting history of the Columbia River Bar, one of the deadliest bar crossings on the globe, where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean. The discussion covers the dangers associated with the area, the shipwrecks and lives lost, and Randall's first-hand journey crossing the bar.