Zsuzsanna Szelenyi, a former Hungarian politician and democracy advocate, joins BBC correspondent Nick Thorpe and politics expert Ben Wellings. They delve into Viktor Orban's dramatic shift from a youthful dissident to a controversial leader known for authoritarian tactics. The discussion highlights the rise of youth activism in Hungary, Orban’s football-inspired political strategies, and his influence during the migrant crisis. They also explore the broader implications for democracy in a Europe leaning toward conservatism.