Yi-Ling Liu
Author and researcher focused on the Chinese internet and digital society; wrote The Wall Dancers, which examines how users navigate freedom and censorship behind the Great Firewall.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 51min
The Surprising Similarity Between the US and Chinese Internets
Yi-Ling Liu, author and researcher of the Chinese internet, explores how users navigate freedom and censorship behind the Great Firewall. She discusses the origins of internet utopianism, grassroots communities and coded evasion tactics. Conversations cover moderation labor, online nationalism, cross-border social media exchanges, and why technological centralization pushed both US and Chinese internets toward similar tribal outcomes.
