Yangyang Cheng, a particle physicist and research scholar at Yale Law School, joins the podcast to discuss the US-China rivalry. They explore how nationalistic narratives distract us from understanding tech in both countries and the impact on scientific collaboration. They also discuss the double standard in the tech rivalry, the influence of nationalism on technology, and the expiration of the US-China Science Technology Cooperation Agreement. A thought-provoking conversation challenging categorizations of technology and science.

Guests Khushboo Razdan and Yangyang Cheng discuss the potential renewal of the US-China science and technology agreement, the impact of racialized suspicion on relations, and the complexities of scientific collaboration. They emphasize the importance of equitable collaboration and address global problems.

What's it like to live across the US-China scientific divide? Yale Law School postdoc, particle physicist and essayist Yangyang Cheng (@yangyang_cheng) joins me alongside undergrad Alex Liang to talk about understanding the other, how the personal can be lost in the noise of geopolitical tension and science across borders.We also discuss Power hierarchies and identities The “new red scare” and scrutiny on Chinese scientists The Large Hadron Collider as a Language as an instrument of state power "Brain drain" and other phrases Yangyang doesn't like Please consider supporting ChinaTalk on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalkLinks to Yangyang’s articles:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-china-US.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/05/west-china-threat-real-place-domestic-agendashttps://thebulletin.org/premium/2020-12/the-edge-of-our-existence-a-particle-physicist-examines-the-architecture-of-society/Outro music: I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel to Be Free by Nina Simone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inNBpizpZkE Get bonus content on Patreon See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices