Quinn Slobodian, a Boston University historian, and Wendy Brown from Princeton, delve into the intricacies of the MAGA movement. They explore the tensions between economic nationalism and libertarianism within Trump’s cabinet, and discuss Project 2025’s focus on executive power. The duo analyzes the rise of cryptocurrency and its appeal to younger voters, alongside the cultural impacts of professional wrestling on American politics. They critically examine the evolution of Christian nationalism and its implications for democracy and social issues.

The conservative, neoliberal counterrevolution in the face of expanding democracy in America: It started long before Donald Trump. Even before Ronald Reagan and his like-minded counterpart across the Atlantic, Margaret Thatcher.   By host and producer John Biewen, with series collaborator Chenjerai Kumanyika. Interviews with Nancy MacLean, Wendy Brown, and Rhon Manigault-Bryant.   The series editor is Loretta Williams. Music by Algiers, John Erik Kaada, Eric Neveux, and Lucas Biewen. Music consulting and production help from Joe Augustine of Narrative Music.    Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

“Neoliberalism” is one of the most confusing phrases in political discourse today. The term is often used to describe the market fundamentalism of thinkers like Milton Friedman and Frederich Hayek or politicians like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. At the same time, critics often place more progressive figures like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and even Elizabeth Warren under the neoliberal banner. This raises an important question: what the hell is neoliberalism?I decided to bring on two guests today to help us answer that question. Wendy Brown is a professor of political theory at UC Berkeley, author of Undoing the Demos and In the Ruins of Neoliberalism, and one of the foremost critics of neoliberalism, not only as a set of economic policies but a “governing rationality” that infects almost all aspects of our existence. Noah Smith is an economist, a columnist at Bloomberg, and is known for his robust defenses of some (though not all) neoliberal positions, which earned him the prestigious title of Chief Neoliberal Shill of 2018. We discuss:- The differences between neoliberal theory and “actually existing neoliberalism”- Neoliberalism as not only a set of economic policies but a form of “public reason” that influences our very conception of what it means to be human- How neoliberal thought came to dominate almost every aspect of our lives- Whether neoliberalism is an inherently anti-democratic project- The relationship between neoliberal economic policies and traditional morality- The differences between New Deal liberalism and Obama-era neoliberalism- Whether a growth-driven economic model is compatible with our planet's ecological limitsBook recommendations: How Asia Works by Joe StudwellLaw Without Future by Jack JacksonDemocracy in Chains by Nancy McLeanMy book is available for pre-order! You can find it at www.EzraKlein.com.Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.comYou can subscribe to Ezra's new podcast Impeachment, explained on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Overcast, Pocket Casts, or your favorite podcast app. Credits:Producer and Editor - Jeff GeldResearcher - Roge KarmaEngineer - Topher Routh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Professor Wendy Brown, a prominent political theorist at UC Berkeley and author of In the Ruins of Neoliberalism, delves into the persistent grip of neoliberalism on politics and economics. She critiques how market-driven ideologies undermine democratic values and climate action. Wendy explores the complex relationship between corporate sustainability and profit motives, urging a rethink of economic models for genuine ecological progress. The conversation highlights the need for renewed democratic engagement and collaboration to tackle the climate crisis and ensure a sustainable future.

Thinkers and philosophers Jacques Ellul, Sheldon Wolin, and Wendy Brown discuss the bigger picture behind recent events, exploring concepts like technique, neoliberalism's impact on government and personal lives, and the appeal of populism.