Vejas Liulevicius, a historian focused on Germany and Eastern Europe, discusses the dark legacy of communism and its ideological counterparts. He delves into Marxism’s vision and critiques, exploring Stalin's rise and the catastrophic impact of collectivization. The conversation highlights the complexities of totalitarian regimes, including the interplay between fascism, socialism, and communism. Liulevicius also examines China's unique communist evolution and emphasizes the importance of understanding these ideologies' historical contexts and implications.