Ute Heggen, a trans widow and author of 'In the Curated Woods,' along with Emma Thomas, founder of Children of Transitioners, join the conversation. They discuss the emotional and social challenges faced by trans widows, emphasizing the need for awareness and support. Ute shares her personal journey through her partner's transition, while Emma sheds light on the impact on children in these families. They explore complex topics like autogynephilia, financial abuse, and highlight the importance of community as they navigate their unique experiences.