David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of Basecamp, shares insights on the company's tumultuous transition and reflects on the pitfalls of social media discourse. He discusses his evolving views on Bitcoin in light of growing government authority. Tony Tran, CEO of Lumanu, offers a fresh perspective on supporting creators in a changing digital landscape, emphasizing financial empowerment and authentic content. Together, they explore the nuances of workplace culture, the battle against online negativity, and the potential for healthier conversations in today’s society.