Tiago Rogero, The Guardian's South America correspondent, shares insights from his recent trip to Bolivia, where he interviewed former president Evo Morales, now a fugitive. They discuss Morales’ controversial bid for a fourth term amidst political turmoil and social unrest. The conversation sheds light on the stark contrast between his loyal support base and the economic challenges Bolivia faces, particularly regarding coca farming and corruption. Rogero also explores the tense dynamics between Morales and current President Luis Arce, revealing the complexities of their political landscape.