Tomas Philipson, an economist and former acting chair at the Council of Economic Advisers, joins the discussion on the varied interpretations of socialism. He defines socialism as compulsion, while Micah Uetricht argues for democratic socialism as an expansion of democracy. They debate historical examples, the legacy of the Cold War, and practical applications within the U.S. Furthermore, they explore how generational perspectives, particularly from Gen Z, influence views on socialism, particularly concerning issues like housing and student debt.