The Middle with Jeremy Hobson What Does Socialism Mean to You?
Jan 9, 2026
Tomas Philipson, an economist and former acting chair at the Council of Economic Advisers, joins the discussion on the varied interpretations of socialism. He defines socialism as compulsion, while Micah Uetricht argues for democratic socialism as an expansion of democracy. They debate historical examples, the legacy of the Cold War, and practical applications within the U.S. Furthermore, they explore how generational perspectives, particularly from Gen Z, influence views on socialism, particularly concerning issues like housing and student debt.
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Expanding Democracy Into The Economy
- Micah Uetricht says democratic socialism expands democracy into the economy so people control essential goods.
- He argues housing, education, and health care are prerequisites for real freedom and dignity.
Socialism Framed As Compulsion
- Thomas Philipson defines socialism primarily as compulsion and forced redistribution rather than voluntary action.
- He warns uniform public programs can require high taxes and produce negative incentives.
Local Democratic Socialism Is Incremental
- Micah Uetricht calls Zoran Mamdani a moderate democratic socialist focusing on transit, rent freezes, and city grocery stores.
- He notes early wins like universal child care show practical, incremental policymaking.
