Terran Williams, author of How God Sees Women and What's So Amazing About Scripture, joins the podcast to discuss their journey from complementarianism to egalitarianism. They examine flawed aspects of complementarianism, emphasize the importance of women's voices in church leadership, explore stories where Jesus interacts with women, and address challenges in navigating conversations about complementarianism. They offer advice on dealing with closed-minded pastors and the fear of gaslighting.