In a riveting discussion, Tadzio Mueller, a political scientist and climate activist, explores the provocative idea of 'just collapse' as a response to the climate crisis. He critiques current activism strategies and questions the viability of decoupling economic growth from emissions. The conversation dives into psychological barriers to action, the implications of corporate accountability, and the urgent need for community solidarity. With insights into the evolution of activism since 2009, Mueller challenges listeners to rethink their approach amidst rising environmental crises.