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Sue Heilbronner
Conscious leadership coach and former CEO. Author of the book Never Ask for the Sale.
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Sep 9, 2025
• 42min
Never Get a “Real Job” Again: Sue Heilbronner on Losing a Role, Choosing Herself, and Selling Without Selling
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Sue Heilbronner, a conscious leadership coach and former CEO, shares her transformative journey after receiving a demoralizing email from her boss. She discusses how choosing to never take a ‘real job’ again propelled her into coaching and entrepreneurship. Sue introduces the concept of 'passionate ambivalence' from her book, emphasizing genuine connection without attachment to outcomes. She also highlights radical candor and practical strategies for building a business that resonates authentically, creating meaningful interactions that drive success.
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