Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, and Steven Schmidt dive into personal branding, operational excellence, and the value of long-form content. They discuss clarity in market messaging, scuba diving, and balancing personal aspirations with professional growth.

Guest Steven Schmidt discusses the new era of revenue and the importance of mindset in driving success. They explore data bias in revenue analytics and the need for a holistic view. They also discuss company culture, budget planning, and the importance of adapting to changes for success.