This week we’re joined by Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker. Now he’s back with his next big thing called Dagger — CI/CD as code that runs anywhere. We’re users of Dagger so check out our codebase if you want to see how it works. On today’s show Solomon takes us back to the days of Docker, what it was like on that 10 year journey, his transition from Docker to Dagger, Dagger’s community-led growth model, their focus on open source and community, how it works, and even a cameo from Kelsey Hightower to explain how Dagger works. Join the discussionChangelog++ members save 4 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Square – Develop on the platform that sellers trust. There is a massive opportunity for developers to support Square sellers by building apps for today’s business needs. Learn more at developer.squareup.com to dive into the docs, APIs, SDKs and to create your Square Developer account — tell them Changelog sent you. Passbolt – It’s time for a new password manager. Read why Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps and databases close to your users. In minutes you can run your Ruby, Go, Node, Deno, Python, or Elixir app (and databases!) all over the world. No ops required. Learn more at fly.io/changelog and check out the speedrun in their docs. Featuring:Solomon Hykes – GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes: dagger.io docs.dagger.io Changelog & Friends #6: Even the best rides come to an end Ship It! #48: Launching Dagger Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

In a captivating discussion, Solomon Hykes, CEO and co-founder of Dagger and Docker, shares insights from his journey in container technology. He highlights the unique challenges of Docker's explosive growth, emphasizing that a vast community doesn't guarantee monetization success. Solomon reveals his strategy at Dagger, focusing on early monetization ideas. He also reflects on the balancing act between open-source ideals and practical business needs, showcasing the importance of community while navigating competitive pressures.

Solomon Hykes, co-founder of Dagger and the visionary behind Docker, shares insights into his groundbreaking new venture. He explains how Dagger redefines CI/CD by managing containerized pipelines, enhancing concurrency through Directed Acyclic Graphs. Hykes highlights the Daggerverse marketplace, promoting the sharing of pipeline functions as source code instead of binaries. The conversation delves into the vital interplay between Dagger and Infrastructure as Code, addressing modern challenges in development and advocating for transparency and efficiency.

Solomon Hykes discusses all things Dagger, Tammer Saleh and James McShane explore going beyond cloud native with SuperOrbital, and Steve Francis and Spencer Smith talk about the state of Talos Linux and their work at Sidero Labs. Topics include the frustration of live-coding, dreams and wishes for Dagger, diversity at KubeCon, and the value of conferences and hallway tracks.

Application delivery doesn’t have to suck. Bret and Nirmal are joined by Solomon Hykes, the founder or Docker, to talk about Dagger and their application delivery-as-code that runs anywhere.💥 This episode is brought to you by our valued sponsor and friends at CAST AI! 💥CAST AI is an all-in-one Kubernetes cost optimization and automation platform that achieves over 60% average compute cost savings without months of onboarding. You get lightning fast autoscaling, downscaling, spot VM support and more with no hit to performance.Use the link below and optimize your first cluster for FREE.cast.ai/bretfisherSolomon started Dagger after he left Docker in 2018 with a few other Docker VPs, including Sam Alba and Andrea Lusardi. Dagger is an innovative startup aimed at simplifying and revolutionizing DevOps automation and software delivery. Created to address Docker's unattended gaps, Dagger streamlines software building, testing, and deployment, exhibiting immense growth potential and wide applications in fostering software ecosystems. For a few years now, they've been publicly iterating on the idea of a programmable and portable automation system for software building, testing, and deploying. In this episode, they cover many topics around Docker and Dagger. I've been convinced that I need to start trying out Dagger in my projects.The live recording of the complete show from November 16, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #241)★Topics★Dagger websiteCreators & Guests Cristi Cotovan - Editor Beth Fisher - Producer Bret Fisher - Host Nirmal Mehta - Host Solomon Hykes - Guest (00:00) - Intro (01:44) - Introducing Solomon Hykes and His Journey (02:25) - Solomon's Life Post-Docker (04:00) - The Genesis of Dagger (09:10) - The Vision Behind Dagger (25:44) - Modules and Declarative Model in Dagger (35:11) - Integration of Dagger with Other Tools (37:04) - Docker Slim and Dagger (38:28) - Question: Dagger, Framework or Library? (39:09) - Question: Dagger's with BuildKit (39:33) - Question: Predictions for Dagger's Adoption (40:59) - Demonstration of Dagger's Functionality (41:15) - Dagger's Compatibility with Other CI Platforms (51:14) - Getting Started with Dagger You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com