Journalist Simon Shuster discusses his book 'The Showman' and provides insights into President Zelensky's journey to the presidency, his transformation into a symbol of resistance and leadership during the invasion of Ukraine, and his media control and relationship with Boris Johnson. The podcast also offers a peek inside the official residence and bunker of the Ukrainian president.

Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine's president and former entertainer, shares his extraordinary journey from a little-known politician to a symbol of national resilience amid war. Joined by Time correspondent Simon Shuster, they discuss Zelensky's courageous leadership during the Russian invasion, highlighting his ability to unify the nation through adaptability. They also delve into Zelensky's savvy media strategy, utilizing his entertainment background to engage the world, garner support, and keep the unfolding crisis in the global spotlight.

Petro Yatsenko, a Ukrainian spokesman for the coordination for the treatment of prisoners of war, discusses the success of the 'I want to live' hotline that helps Russian soldiers defect. Simon Shuster, author and Time correspondent, talks about his new book 'The Showman' and how President Zelensky has changed during the war. The podcast also explores the escape process for Russian defectors, the risks they face, and Zelensky's surprising transformation from a comedian to a wartime leader.