In this engaging conversation, Chris Hedges interviews Sheldon Wolin, a distinguished Princeton political scientist known for his insights on democracy. They dive into the concept of inverted totalitarianism, which depicts a democracy seemingly governed by corporate interests rather than the people. Wolin distinguishes between classical and modern forms of totalitarianism, critiques the impact of capitalism on democratic foundations, and discusses challenges to civic engagement. The conversation urges for grassroots movements to combat corporate influence and re-establish genuine democratic principles.

Thinkers and philosophers Jacques Ellul, Sheldon Wolin, and Wendy Brown discuss the bigger picture behind recent events, exploring concepts like technique, neoliberalism's impact on government and personal lives, and the appeal of populism.