Sarah Vowell

Michael Lewis, renowned author of bestsellers like 'Moneyball,' joins historian Sarah Vowell for a compelling discussion. They debunk the myth of the 'deep state,' highlighting how dedicated government workers often work without recognition. Lewis shares insights from his latest essays on these unsung heroes, while Vowell reflects on a National Archives record keeper. Together, they emphasize the crucial role of public service and the degradation of trust under political manipulation, calling for a reevaluation of how society views government.

In this conversation, New York Times bestselling author Sarah Vowell shares her insights on the often-overlooked role of public servants, spotlighting the National Archives and its digital transformation led by Pamela Wright. Vowell emphasizes how government employees enable Americans to connect with their history in meaningful ways. She challenges the prevailing negative perceptions of government workers, highlighting their modest contributions. The dialogue underscores the vital role of accessible historical resources in understanding both personal and collective identities.