The Bulwark Podcast S2 Ep1005: Michael Lewis: Government Workers Aren't the Corrupt Ones
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Mar 21, 2025 
Michael Lewis, renowned author of bestsellers like 'Moneyball,' joins historian Sarah Vowell for a compelling discussion. They debunk the myth of the 'deep state,' highlighting how dedicated government workers often work without recognition. Lewis shares insights from his latest essays on these unsung heroes, while Vowell reflects on a National Archives record keeper. Together, they emphasize the crucial role of public service and the degradation of trust under political manipulation, calling for a reevaluation of how society views government.
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Coal Mine Safety
- Michael Lewis tells the story of Chris Mark, a government worker who dedicated his career to solving the problem of coal mine roof collapses.
- Mark's work ultimately led to significant improvements in coal mine safety.
The Importance of Data
- Author John Lanchester focuses on the Consumer Price Index (CPI) as a character, highlighting the US government's crucial role in collecting and analyzing data.
- This data collection provides insights into society and is essential for effective governance.
Risks of Politicized Data
- Politicizing economic data like the CPI could undermine the Federal Reserve's ability to adjust policy effectively.
- It could also sow confusion and distrust, impacting financial stability.
