On 2 July 2022, I hosted this conversation with Sam Biagetti of the excellent Historiansplaining podcast. We discussed Sam's interest in geography and history, his process for his rapid pace of putting out podcasts, the tremendous demand for learning on the internet, the magic of film, Nietzsche, Judaism, and Orientalism. I have some audio issues at the start but they clear up as the podcast continues. I'm @bryankam on Twitter. Click here to schedule a discussion with me.

Historiansplaining podcast host Sam Biagetti and Michael explore the rise and fall of the failed messiah Shabbatai. They discuss the historical context, controversies, and reactions to Shabbatai's claims of being the Messiah. They also delve into the tragedies and crisis of the 16th and 17th centuries, the role of Kabbalah in understanding crisis, and the formation of a Creole faith surrounding Shabbatai.