Ainslie Johnstone, a data journalist at The Economist, and Sacha Nauta, the social affairs editor, explore the intriguing phenomenon of 'peak woke.' They discuss how wokeness, which thrived from 2015 to 2021, is now in decline, influenced by shifting public sentiment and backlash against radical ideas. The guests delve into generational perceptions of wokeness, its implications for institutional diversity, and its impact on the upcoming 2024 election. They also touch on the rise of the anti-woke movement and the evolving political messaging within the Democratic Party.

Guests Sacha Nauta and Idrees Kahlo discuss the upcoming elections and the impact of abortion rights. They delve into grassroots movements, activism, strategic considerations, and potential restrictions. The conversation highlights the intersection of abortion politics and women's access to reproductive rights.

Sacha Nauta, an author at The Economist, and Idrees Kahloon, a contributor based in Washington, dive into the heated topic of abortion and its impact on the upcoming elections. They discuss the Supreme Court's 2022 decision that shifted control back to states and the burgeoning grassroots movement for reproductive rights. The duo explores how Democrats are leveraging abortion issues to mobilize voters, the significance of upcoming ballots in various states, and the complex landscape of abortion politics in America. It's an insightful conversation on how these dynamics could shape the future.