Michael Jackson and Ryan Florence discuss building Remix, a React framework. They explore TurboLinks, Pjax, and server-side rendering. They also discuss Remix's potential, suspense, back end connections, CDN optimization, React Router v6 integration, and smart routing in Remix.

In this supper club episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Ryan Florence about Remix, working at Shopify, the history of licensing and pricing, quitting Twitter, the state of React Server components, and more. Show Notes 00:35 Welcome Ryan Florence Ryan Florence (@ryanflorence) / X React Training React Router Docs Moved ryanflorence (Ryan Florence) · GitHub 01:42 Collarbone update 06:47 What is Remix? Remix.run 11:43 Server actions 15:33 What was the history around licensing? 20:30 Open source is weird now 22:21 Working with Shopify and Hydrogen Remixing Shopify | Remix CSS Zen Garden: The Beauty of CSS Design The Zen of CSS Design: Visual Enlightenment for the Web: Shea, Dave, Holzschlag, Molly E.: 9780321303479: Amazon.com: Books 28:04 On quitting Twitter 35:33 What’s coming up with v2 of Remix? 40:30 The reality of breaking changes 44:18 What’s the status of React Server components? 49:46 Will Remix ever have React Server components in it? 50:55 How should we be fetching our data? 53:04 Do you have a wishlist for JSX? 58:45 Supper Club questions Strapi - Open source Node.js Headless CMS 🚀 Sidekiq GitHub - i-tu/Hasklig: Hasklig - a code font with monospaced ligatures GitHub - sindresorhus/terminal-snazzy: Elegant Terminal theme with bright colors 08:24 SIIIIICK ××× PIIIICKS ××× ××× SIIIIICK ××× PIIIICKS ××× Minivans Shameless Plugs Shopify Tweet us your tasty treats Scott’s Instagram LevelUpTutorials Instagram Wes’ Instagram Wes’ Twitter Wes’ Facebook Scott’s Twitter Make sure to include @SyntaxFM in your tweets Wes Bos on Bluesky Scott on Bluesky Syntax on Bluesky

Taylor Otwell and Ryan Florence discuss the definition of 'full stack' development, the differences between Laravel and Rails, the divide between frontend and backend teams, the lack of a real JavaScript community, and the potential of JavaScript frameworks to be the fullest stack. They also touch on what Taylor would like to see from the Remix community and humorously compare Laravel to Canada.

Ryan Florence and Michael Jackson discuss their business plans for Remix, React Router, and Reach UI. They talk about the impact of COVID on their business, the challenges of making open-source sustainable, and different models of monetizing open source software. They also explore the need for a framework that solves multiple problems in the React community and explain why they choose to sell their product instead of keeping it open source.

Carson Gross, an expert in gonzo open source marketing, shares insights on bringing humor and positivity to social media. Alex Petros dives into the rise and fall of HTMX, providing a thought-provoking perspective. Ben Damman introduces Hypermedia Middleware with a focus on innovation. Meanwhile, Ryan Florence delivers a sharp critique of HTMX, sparking intriguing discussions. Nathaniel Maile and Jon-Michael Hartway co-present on the creative misuse of hypermedia, showcasing the playful side of tech development.