Ryan Brown

In this conversation, Dr. Ryan Brown, a behavioral scientist from Rice University, dives into the complexities of leadership measurement. He raises crucial questions about what truly counts in organizational change. Ryan introduces a three-domain framework—feelings, thoughts, and behaviors—to capture the full picture of impact. They discuss the pitfalls of data interpretation, how metrics can be manipulated, and the importance of context. Ultimately, he encourages leaders to embrace humility and clarity in their measurement approaches.