Kyle Harper, a faculty member at the University of Oklahoma and the Santa Fe Institute, joins birder Ryan Beebe to explore the intricacies of extinction. They discuss how human actions have contributed to the ongoing sixth mass extinction, drawing parallels with historical events. The conversation delves into the emotional impacts of extinction, questioning our moral responsibilities toward endangered species. They also highlight successful conservation efforts, such as the Kirtland's warbler recovery, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of biodiversity and the complex relationship between loss and renewal.