In this engaging discussion, Ron Gantt, HSE Director at Yondr and co-host of the Punk Rock Safety podcast, dives into the hidden complexities of waste collection. He sheds light on the safety risks that arise from unrealistic policies and inadequate training. Ron emphasizes the importance of understanding worker adaptations as a way to identify systemic issues. He advocates for deep audits that focus on real-world operations rather than mere compliance, calling for a culture of proactive safety and support for frontline workers.