Jodi Kantor, an investigative reporter at The New York Times, joins former anti-abortion activist Rob Schenck to discuss his secretive campaign to influence the Supreme Court. They explore how personal relationships with justices may sway judicial decisions, particularly around contentious issues like abortion. Schenck reveals unethical tactics used in funding and strategy, emphasizing the growing concerns over the integrity of the court. Their conversation sheds light on the dangerous intersection of faith, politics, and judicial influence.

Former Evangelical leader Rob Schenck discusses his conversion away from the anti-abortion movement towards advocating for reproductive rights. He reveals the dangers of Christian Nationalism's influence in American politics and offers insights on pushing back against its aggression.

Rob Schenck, author of "Costly Grace" and former anti-abortion activist, shares his remarkable journey of de-radicalization and personal recovery. He discusses the importance of hope and resilience in confronting rising autocracy, drawing inspiration from the legacy of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Schenck emphasizes the need for compassionate dialogue to combat misinformation and rebuild community trust. He also addresses how to guide children through their climate fears, highlighting the importance of validating their concerns and encouraging collaborative action.