Join Patrick Finan, an expert in pain psychology and psychedelics research, and Rebecca Ehrenkranz, a postdoctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins, as they explore groundbreaking uses of psychedelics for chronic pain and depression. They discuss the transition from research to clinical trials involving substances like psilocybin and LSD. Hear about the complexities of managing expectations in trials, the role of active placebos, and the emotional breakthroughs psychedelics can provide. Plus, get insights on participant recruitment and some fun book and music recommendations!