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Phoebe Saintilan-Stocks
Author and former Australian public servant, interviewed about her book The Right Hand which profiles chiefs of staff to world leaders.
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Nov 2, 2025
• 26min
Secrets from top political chiefs of staff– podcast
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Phoebe Saintilan-Stocks, an author and former Australian public servant, delves into the world of chiefs of staff for powerful leaders in her new book, The Right Hand. She shares amusing anecdotes, like Tony Blair gifting hand-me-down shirts and Jacinda Ardern's love for crime TV. Phoebe discusses the delicate balance chiefs must maintain between influence and accountability, sheds light on the personal burdens of monumental events like 9/11, and highlights how female leaders navigate misogyny while achieving significant policy wins. Her insights reveal the complex dynamics behind the scenes of global power.
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