In this engaging discussion, Philip Taubman, co-author of "McNamara At War," delves into the complex life of Robert McNamara, the controversial Secretary of Defense during the Vietnam War. Taubman reveals how McNamara, while privately lamenting the war's futility, remained loyally bound to LBJ, illustrating the moral quandaries of leadership. He uncovers new documents that expose this tragic double life, emphasizing that McNamara's legacy embodies the failure of America's postwar meritocracy and the profound moral dilemmas faced by those in power.