
Commonwealth Club of California Podcast Philip Taubman and William Taubman: McNamara at War
Nov 3, 2025
Philip Taubman, a senior fellow at Stanford, and William Taubman, a Pulitzer-winning biographer, delve into the life of Robert McNamara, a key player in U.S. military history. They discuss newly uncovered letters from Jacqueline Kennedy that reveal McNamara's personal struggles. Their exploration covers McNamara's evolution from a war advocate to someone questioning the Vietnam War, alongside insights from a private diary. The brothers also reflect on McNamara's duality: his loyalty, ambition, and the haunting guilt from his decisions, painting a portrait of a man deeply at odds with himself.
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
Private Letters Recast His Image
- Diana McNamara and other papers revealed intimate letters from Jacqueline Kennedy, McNamara's mother, and his first wife.
- These letters showed a sensitive, empathetic side of McNamara that contrasted with his technocratic image.
Public Role And Private Torment
- McNamara lived a double life: publicly managing war while privately tormented by it.
- The title "McNamara at War" captures both his external role and internal struggle.
Managerial Mindset Shaped Defense Policy
- Kennedy recruited McNamara to reform the Pentagon, not to run a war in Vietnam.
- McNamara applied management techniques to centralize civilian control and reshape defense budgeting.







