Philip Joyce

Philip Joyce, a public policy professor at the University of Maryland, discusses the pitfalls of running government like a business, emphasizing that unlike businesses, governments can't afford to take risks. He highlights the historical roots of this idea and contrasts success metrics between the two sectors. Joyce also analyzes the implications of business-minded leaders like Trump and Musk on governance. The conversation touches on special elections' stakes in Wisconsin and Florida and offers reflections on community engagement and the value of admitting mistakes.