Guests Luke Kemp, a researcher on existential risks, and Peter Hitchens, a conservative journalist, share insights on societal collapse's past and future implications. They explore real human responses to disasters, contrasting chaos with acts of collective kindness. Neville Morley discusses historical perspectives, while Phil Tinline analyzes the impact of fear on politics. Rhiannon Firth highlights grassroots movements like Occupy Sandy, emphasizing that crises reveal systemic inequalities. The group debates whether today's challenges are unique and the role of technology in escalation.