Patrice Dutil, a Canadian history professor, shares his insights on Sir John A. Macdonald's complex legacy. He reveals that Macdonald extended voting rights to Indigenous people, a fact often overlooked in current narratives. The conversation also tackles the controversial portrayal of Macdonald compared to figures like Louis Riel. Dutil argues for a more nuanced understanding of historical events, such as the 1885 Smallpox Crisis, and the significant contributions of the Canadian Pacific Railway, reshaping perceptions of Canada's founders.