In this insightful conversation, climate activist Patience Nabukalu, from Uganda, shares her passionate efforts advocating for divestment from fossil fuels. She highlights the urgent need for financial accountability, particularly from major banks like HSBC. The discussion also tackles the recent electoral shifts in the UK, the rising influence of the Reform party, and the implications for Labour. Amid these political changes, Nabukalu offers a glimmer of hope, emphasizing the power of grassroots activism to drive change in climate policy.