How Labour should (but probably won’t) reset after Reform’s big win
May 8, 2025
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In this insightful conversation, climate activist Patience Nabukalu, from Uganda, shares her passionate efforts advocating for divestment from fossil fuels. She highlights the urgent need for financial accountability, particularly from major banks like HSBC. The discussion also tackles the recent electoral shifts in the UK, the rising influence of the Reform party, and the implications for Labour. Amid these political changes, Nabukalu offers a glimmer of hope, emphasizing the power of grassroots activism to drive change in climate policy.
Reform's significant local election wins indicate a shifting political landscape, necessitating a strategic response from Labour and other parties.
The UK's foreign policy concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict faces scrutiny, as calls for humanitarian intervention and recognition of Palestine intensify.
Climate activist Patience Nabukalu stresses the immediate need for divesting from fossil fuels and prioritizing sustainable investments over future goals.
Deep dives
Reform's Victory in Local Elections
The recent local elections showcased a significant win for Reform, led by Nigel Farage, as the party gained an impressive 677 council seats, making it a formidable force in the political landscape. This success positioned Reform ahead of traditional parties such as the Liberal Democrats and Conservatives in terms of council control. Notably, Reform secured mayoralties in key areas, demonstrating its ability to penetrate local governance. However, the low voter turnout in these elections and the context of their success—taking advantage of unhappiness with incumbent parties—suggest that this momentum may not translate directly to future general elections.
Impact of Reform on Major Parties
Reform's rise poses a serious challenge to both Labour and the Conservatives, leading to discussions about whether the UK is now characterized by a three-party system. Both major parties have been reacting to Reform's influence, indicating that their strategies and policies might need to shift in response to this new competition. There is an ongoing battle within Conservative ranks about whether to align more closely with Reform, raising concerns about the party's ideological direction. Labour also faces pressure to modify its platform, as many voters are looking for a clear opposition to Reform's narratives, particularly focusing on issues beyond immigration.
Labour's Future Direction
As Labour navigates its response to the rise of Reform, there is apprehension over the potential shift further to the right, which could alienate traditional voters. Amidst discussions about economic issues, the party is urged not to engage in battles over immigration or social policies, but rather focus on pressing economic reforms that resonate with a broader electorate. Proposals include a radical overhaul of the tax system and addressing the urgent necessities of voters, such as cost of living concerns. Insight from political commentators suggests that Labour must adopt a more aggressive stance in defining its opposition to Reform to gain back ground.
Concerns Over Israeli Actions in Gaza
Israeli ministers have announced plans to occupy Gaza indefinitely, resulting in severe humanitarian concerns as many Palestinians face dire living conditions due to a complete blockade. The possible displacement of countless individuals highlights the urgency of international attention and action to ease the suffering of the Palestinian population. The UK's position remains complicated, given the mixed responses from various political factions, particularly calls to recognize Palestine as a state. The situation represents a broader discussion about foreign policy, humanitarian intervention, and the ethical implications of military support for Israel amidst its increasingly aggressive actions.
Emerging Climate Activism
The podcast featured climate activist Patience Nabukali, who emphasizes the urgent need for banks to stop financing fossil fuel projects that endanger communities in the Global South. She highlighted the risks posed by construction like the East African Crude Oil Pipeline and shared the grassroots struggles against it, underlining the importance of activism in holding powerful institutions accountable. Recent protests have led to significant shifts, such as the divestment by major insurance companies from controversial projects. The conversation underscores the need for urgent climate action and financial investments in renewable resources, particularly as communities are calling for immediate assistance rather than promises of future goals.
There’s no ifs or buts - Reform had a won big in last week’s local elections - but it’s not all bad news. Near-total Tory wipeout, positive signs for the Liberal Democrats and Greens and a lesson for Labour: acquiescing to Nigel Farage will only empower him.
A slightly jetlagged Nish and a fresh as a daisy Zoë digest the results before diving into demands to end Israel’s occupation of Gaza… Led by, of all people, rebel tories? In the wake of the Netanyahu’s latest actions, why isn't the British Government speaking up more?
Later, the pair are joined by climate activist Patience Nabukalu, for an injection of hope following her direct action calling for an end to fossil fuel investment from one of the UK’s biggest banks.
**Comment was sought from HSBC regarding claims of dismissing voices at their AGM but was not received in time for publication. We will update this podcast if we receive a reply**
