Join Pat McCabe, a Diné activist and ceremonial leader, alongside Francis Weller, a psychotherapist and soul activist, as they explore the transformative power of winter’s darkness. They discuss the significance of grief and renewal, weaving Indigenous wisdom with psychological insights. Their reflections on ancestral ties and communal healing highlight the importance of embracing life's cyclical nature. From personal rituals to collective transitions, this conversation offers profound wisdom on navigating loss and finding hope in the fertile darkness.

Pat McCabe, Diné (Navajo) mother, grandmother, activist, artist, and writer discusses indigeneity, the power of ceremony, the role of women in history, co-creation and connecting to the land, embracing individual processes, the sacredness of a woman's moon time, and trusting in tradition.

Pat McCabe, also known as Woman Stands Shining, is a member of the Diné Nation and a keeper of Lakota spiritual teachings. She discusses the sacred role of women in indigenous cultures and their deep connection to Mother Earth. Pat emphasizes the power of moon time and the need to restore balance between masculine and feminine energies. She advocates for women to reclaim their spiritual authority through alignment with natural laws. The conversation delves into dismantling toxic power structures and fostering true respect for women.