John Giles, the mayor of Mesa, Arizona, and Olivia Troye, a former White House staffer from the Trump administration, join the discussion to explore surprising Republican support for Kamala Harris. They delve into the motivations behind this political shift, highlighting the ideological rift within the GOP. Personal narratives reveal a journey from traditional conservatism to endorsing a Democrat, emphasizing character over party loyalty. The duo also reflects on the changing media landscape and its impact on political perceptions, especially contrasting the coverage of Harris and Trump.

Olivia Troye has worked in the Republican National Committee, the Pentagon, the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad, the National Counterterrorism Center, and the Department of Homeland Security. But it was her role on the small team directly supporting Vice President Mike Pence that brought her the most challenging experiences of her career while making her all too aware of the surprisingly thin staffing for the next in line to the presidency.Lawfare publisher David Priess spoke to Troye about her path from El Paso to Philadelphia to Washington, her experience on Capitol Hill on 9/11, serving in Baghdad after the U.S. invasion, working at the National Counterterrorism Center and the Department of Homeland Security, differences between core National Security Council staff and the support staff for the vice president, the many different tasks that support to a vice president entails, Mike Pence as a customer of the President's Daily Brief, the value of civil service professionals, the ups and downs of working with Pence during the COVID-19 pandemic, the inappropriate handling of classified material she saw during her final years on the job, the ethical reasons spurring her to leave government service, the importance of reasonable gun control, and more.Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Former Homeland Security Advisor and Counterterror Advisor to VP Mike Pence, Olivia Troye, and other guests discuss topics including Trump's legal immunity, the escalation of violence between Israel and Gaza, Hamas' attack plans, the Great Migration, and themes in Sylvia Plath's 'The Bell Jar'

Joining the podcast are guests like an Opinion Writer for The Washington Post, a Professor of History at NYU, and an Author of “Persepolis”. They discuss Trump's legal troubles, threats to democracy, challenges in post-Roe Alabama, global news updates, January 6th events revelations, preserving democracy, and exploring critical thinking in 'Persepolis'.

Olivia Troye, a former Trump White House official known for her bold criticism, joins political strategist Reed Galen and attorney Julie Zebrak, a Kamala Harris campaign volunteer. They dive into the heated dynamics of battleground states as the election looms. The trio discusses how Trump's alarming rhetoric shapes voter sentiment, analyzes the grassroots efforts in these crucial areas, and highlights key issues in Georgia affecting local voters. Their insights reflect the ever-complex nature of political engagement in a polarizing climate.