In this engaging discussion, Oliver Nobetau, a Papua New Guinea government lawyer and Lowy Institute fellow, sheds light on a unique rugby deal that links sports diplomacy to national security. He explains how a $600 million rugby franchise for PNG guarantees no Chinese military presence. Meanwhile, Rana Mitter, a Harvard professor, provides historical context on China's ambitions in the Pacific. The conversation dives into the strategic value of Papua New Guinea, the implications of newfound defense agreements, and sports as a tool for geopolitical leverage.