Nicos Poulantzas, an influential Marxist theorist, dives into the complexities of the state and capitalism. He critiques traditional views of the state as neutral, emphasizing its deep ties to capitalism. The discussion navigates Poulantzas' conflict with Foucault's power dynamics and the pitfalls of economic reductionism. They also tackle the nuances of far-right politics and the role of class struggle in shaping history. The conversation offers a fresh look at state power, urging a deeper understanding essential for effective political action.