Former CIA and DoD Chinese espionage expert, Nicholas Eftimiades, talks about China's aggressive covert campaigns against pro-democracy activists in the US. Topics include China's covert operations, previous collaboration between Zoom and the Chinese government, lack of accountability in handling unregistered Chinese agents, China's use of artificial intelligence for surveillance, and the importance of promoting American values and national security.

Intelligence historian Tim Weiner and Chinese espionage expert Nicholas Eftimiades discuss CIA ops against Russia, Chinese covert campaigns against US dissidents, KGB infiltration and deception, challenges in obtaining truthful information in present-day Russia, China's Operation Fox Hunt, China's global threats and repression, and Chinese harassment of dissidents in the US.

Nicholas Eftimiades doubts rumors of the top Chinese counterspy defecting to the US, but discusses Beijing's many moles in US intelligence. Former FBI official Jay Tabb explores challenges in dealing with home-grown American terrorists, including surveillance limitations and the role of the private sector in national security.