Nancy Salzman
Former nurse and NLP practitioner who co-founded NXIVM and used NLP techniques professionally; in this episode she describes her use of NLP for hypnobirthing and emotional state control and discusses her conviction-related past.
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Jan 20, 2026 • 43min
The Guru’s Guru
Nancy Salzman, co-founder of NXIVM and an expert in NLP and hypnosis, shares her transformative journey with Neuro-Linguistic Programming. She reveals how NLP helped her conquer a public-speaking phobia and discusses its surprising influence across various fields, from corporations to the military. The conversation explores the intriguing intersection of hypnosis and NLP, her training with creator Richard Bandler, and the ethics surrounding NLP techniques. With personal anecdotes, Nancy highlights both the power and potential pitfalls of mind-control methods.
Jan 21, 2026 • 44min
Presenting Mind Games | The Guru’s Guru
Nancy Salzman, a former nurse and NLP practitioner, offers a compelling look into her journey from the medical field to mastering neuro-linguistic programming. She shares her innovative use of NLP in hypnobirthing and its impact on emotional control. Nancy also candidly discusses her past with NXIVM, balancing the technique's benefits against its controversial legacy. Listeners will discover how NLP can reshape behavior and even help manage emotions in extreme circumstances, unveiling both the promise and the pitfalls of this powerful method.
