Mind Games The Guru’s Guru
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Jan 20, 2026 
Nancy Salzman, co-founder of NXIVM and an expert in NLP and hypnosis, shares her transformative journey with Neuro-Linguistic Programming. She reveals how NLP helped her conquer a public-speaking phobia and discusses its surprising influence across various fields, from corporations to the military. The conversation explores the intriguing intersection of hypnosis and NLP, her training with creator Richard Bandler, and the ethics surrounding NLP techniques. With personal anecdotes, Nancy highlights both the power and potential pitfalls of mind-control methods.
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Rapid Phobia Cure Launches A Career
- Nancy Salzman described curing her lifelong public-speaking phobia with an NLP phobia fix in minutes.
- She then built a consulting career using NLP to help thousands of clients and companies.
NLP Is Everywhere
- NLP techniques are embedded in mainstream self-help and corporate training across many fields.
- Examples include Tony Robbins, Fortune 500 sales trainings, and military uses for performance and persuasion.
Trying Hypnobirthing Firsthand
- Alice visited Nancy for a hypnobirthing session and received a personalized hypnobirthing tape.
- Alice felt relaxed and credited Nancy's tone and pacing as effective, similar to a meditation app.