In this discussion, Mohamed Amer Meziane, an expert in ecological and racial history, dives deep into the connections between secularization and colonialism. He explores how secularization often serves colonial interests instead of being a separate phenomenon. The conversation highlights the historical intertwining of religious authority and imperial power. Meziane also examines the implications of racial purity and identity within colonial contexts, linking past events to modern political theology, and critiques the capitalist frameworks that drive environmental degradation today.

Mohamed Amer Meziane challenges the link between Western Christendom and imperialism in his book. He discusses the intersection of climate crisis, secularization, and racial dynamics in history, highlighting aspects of extractivism, capitalism, and the impact on global South countries. The conversation explores the ecological and racial history of secularization, drawing parallels between modern states in Europe and the disenchantment of the earth due to colonialism.