Mick Mulroy, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East, and Andy Milburn, author of "When the Tempest Gathers," delve into the rifts within the Trump administration regarding China. They discuss contrasting strategies toward Taiwan, weighing aggression against economic interests. Mulroy highlights the shifting dynamics of U.S. foreign policy, particularly concerning Iran’s nuclear ambitions, while Milburn offers insights on the critical role of strategic alliances in the Pacific. Their conversation unveils the complexities of navigating these geopolitical challenges.