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Michael Lissack
Founder and director of the Second Order Science Foundation and former president of the American Society for Cybernetics; researcher on anticipatory systems, cybernetics, and organizational learning.
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Dec 16, 2025
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#236 Michael Lissack on Anticipatory Agents
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Michael Lissack, founder of the Second Order Science Foundation and a cybernetics expert, dives into anticipatory agents and their role in understanding complex systems. He explores the intersection of Quantum Bayesianism and anticipatory systems, shedding light on how we interpret meaning in an overwhelming information landscape. Lissack distinguishes between human cognitive limits and large language models, emphasizing the value of dialogue with these agents. He critiques conventional approaches, advocating for a philosophical, process-driven framework to navigate uncertainty.
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