Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy and former Obama administration lawyer, joins Michael Calderone, editor of Vanity Fair’s The Hive, to unpack the implications of Joe and Mika's Mar-a-Lago meeting with Trump. They discuss the normalization of Trump's rhetoric by media figures and how this may impact journalistic integrity. The conversation further explores how media could respond to authoritarian pressures, the challenges of maintaining independent journalism, and the evolving dynamics of power and media in Trump's era.

Ian Sams, senior spokesman for Kamala Harris's 2024 campaign, shares insights on the innovative media strategies being employed to engage undecided voters. He discusses the campaign's diverse outreach, from Howard Stern to 'Call Her Daddy.' Michael Calderone, editor at Vanity Fair’s The Hive, analyzes the contrasting approaches of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, especially Trump's focus on right-wing media to capture young male voters. The conversation highlights the challenges both candidates face in a rapidly evolving media landscape.