In this engaging discussion, Prof. Megan Peters, Associate Professor of Cognitive Science at UC Irvine, dives into the enigmatic world of consciousness. She explores how our brain handles uncertainty and the practical implications for both humans and non-human animals. The conversation turns philosophical, considering the possibility of living in a simulation and pondering the consciousness of octopuses. With humor and insight, they discuss access versus phenomenal consciousness, challenging listeners to rethink what it means to be aware.