Matt Miale, guest host and good friend of Darren Phillippe, interviews Eric Forney, CEO of Livian and expanding leader at Keller Williams. They debunk the myth that larger teams always yield higher profits, emphasizing profit per agent as the true measure of success. Eric shares insights on scaling without chaos, hiring the right talent, and transitioning from agent to CEO. With a focus on smart growth and effective leadership, listeners are encouraged to rethink their approach to building a profitable real estate business.